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12-19-2004, 11:41 PM
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#31 | | Spotter | Quote: |
Originally Posted by PHerder Greg55_99, what model Jeep should I use in a lookup on www.car-part.com to find the correct bell housing?
I tried using a 1985 Jeep Cherokee (except Grand Cherokee) and then selected the option of "gasoline w/top cover trans" and came up with two pages of bell housings and they do list the 2.5 with T5 (and T4) and also the 2.8 with T5 which is the 60 degree V6. The T5s they list, are they the Ford transmission bolt pattern?
I am trying to put a Ford V8 spec T5 (with the 2.95 1st) behind a GM 3.4l V6.
Thanks!
Paull | Paul
Those are the correct years for the Ford pattern T4\T5 with the GM 60 degree pattern. Both the 2.5L and the 2.8L had the same pattern. The Jeep bellhousing is slightly longer than the Ford input shaft. You may have to use a custom longer pilot bushing and the thicker Camaro 3.4L flywheel to get full clutch engagement. You may also have to use a different size input shaft bearing retainer. If the Ford one won't fit into the bell, use one from a GM T5.
Wildman,
A mini starter is a high torque aftermarket unit that generally doesn't have a nose. Just a gear.
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12-20-2004, 01:00 PM
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#32 | | Noobie | Thanks Greg!
All for naught though ... found that the jeep bell housing has the clutch slave cylinder in a position that interfers with my frame.
Paul
Last edited by PHerder : 12-21-2004 at 09:04 AM.
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05-21-2005, 09:50 PM
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#33 | | Noobie | Quote:
Acme Adapters also offers an adapter plate and modified flywheel to hook up VW 1.6. 1.9L Turbo Diesels to a W series tranny. This requires the use of the Toyota 22R bellhousing. To use this plate for an R series swap, the R151 Turbo bellhousing must be used (also requires Dellow spacer).
Greg
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From your earlier work, the R series comes in two different shaft lengths (pre-96 and 96 & later). I have a '96 R150/R150F -- since this has the longer shaft -- it requires the 1 inch spacer. Have I got that right? |
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05-25-2005, 08:10 AM
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#34 | | Spotter | Quote: |
Originally Posted by greppenstilskin From your earlier work, the R series comes in two different shaft lengths (pre-96 and 96 & later). I have a '96 R150/R150F -- since this has the longer shaft -- it requires the 1 inch spacer. Have I got that right? | Sounds like you've got that right.
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08-16-2005, 09:36 AM
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#35 | | Noobie | sorry to bring up a older thread
but i have a 3.8l Series II camaro that is fully rebiult with a T-70 turbo on it..... and my goal is 10.99 in the 1/4 and/or 600 RWHP... i know the tranny will not hold and they break after 350 RWHP.........
i can't really find to much for my T-5 so what one of these trannys can i get that will handle more power ? and i not have to make a new car to make the thing fit!
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08-16-2005, 05:16 PM
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#36 | | Spotter | Quote: |
Originally Posted by v6turbocamaro sorry to bring up a older thread
but i have a 3.8l Series II camaro that is fully rebiult with a T-70 turbo on it..... and my goal is 10.99 in the 1/4 and/or 600 RWHP... i know the tranny will not hold and they break after 350 RWHP.........
i can't really find to much for my T-5 so what one of these trannys can i get that will handle more power ? and i not have to make a new car to make the thing fit! | Well, the only thing that comes to mind is the G-Force T5. It's an upgraded version they build. http://www.g-forcetransmissions.com/tran_gt-5.asp
I can't see any of the other gearboxes previously mentioned fitting all of your requirements. A Tremec TKO 600 would be a good swap but it might require some floor massaging to fit. It could be bolted up to an S10 2.8L bellhousing to work. Same for a Richmond 6-speed but it's much more expensive.
I don't think the Supra Turbo R154 would hold up to that kind of torque and fast launches. It's better than a T5 but not as good as a Tremec.
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08-16-2005, 06:08 PM
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#37 | | King of the Rocks | Quote: |
Originally Posted by v6turbocamaro sorry to bring up a older thread
but i have a 3.8l Series II camaro that is fully rebiult with a T-70 turbo on it..... and my goal is 10.99 in the 1/4 and/or 600 RWHP... i know the tranny will not hold and they break after 350 RWHP.........
i can't really find to much for my T-5 so what one of these trannys can i get that will handle more power ? and i not have to make a new car to make the thing fit! | Does that have anything to do with Jeeps.. Or am I just missing something?
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08-16-2005, 06:34 PM
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#38 | | Spotter | Quote: |
Originally Posted by White98TJ Does that have anything to do with Jeeps.. Or am I just missing something? | Yes, I'd say you have missed something. The material in this thread covers a lot of ground and a lot of things other than Jeeps. It seems to me he asked a valid question and I tried to give him an answer. It could be you've learned something (as I have since this thread started). So.. with all respect, let's just go with the flow.
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08-25-2005, 07:41 PM
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#39 | | Spotter | In my internet cruisings I came across this photo of the hind end of a 2005 Jeep Liberty 2.8L Turbo Diesel. When placed next to the bellhousing from a 3.9L V6 AX15 bellhousing, the bolt patterns look suspiciously similar! (That is, the same as the Chrysler Small Block pattern) Hmmm....
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09-17-2005, 12:35 PM
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#40 | | Noobie | Thank you vary much
I just broke 3rd gear last night at the track
looks like thats my only route !! |
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09-22-2005, 08:32 AM
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#41 | | Noobie | Regaurding the T5's, I have a GM T5 from an S10 (drivers side starter pocket), is it possible to use the stronger gearsets from the mustangs in this case, and still use the input shaft from the S10? I bought the T5 because I knew it would be a direct bolt onto the 3.4DOHC (GM 60degreev6) I have from a Lumina Z34, but the power I plan to make with this thing(holset HX40) is probally going to toast the weaker S10 gearset.
Last edited by RebelGT : 09-22-2005 at 09:37 AM.
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09-23-2005, 07:11 AM
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#43 | | Noobie | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Greg55_99 |
Thanks Greg,
Thats an awesome link, I searched through the forum and it does look like you can swap gears through out the WC line. I think I'm going to try a mustang 5.0 gear set if/after this one dies. I'm hoping the stock gearset will be able to handle the power, since the vehicle is very light, but we'll see. |
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09-23-2005, 12:19 PM
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#44 | | Spotter | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Greg55_99 In my internet cruisings I came across this photo of the hind end of a 2005 Jeep Liberty 2.8L Turbo Diesel. When placed next to the bellhousing from a 3.9L V6 AX15 bellhousing, the bolt patterns look suspiciously similar! (That is, the same as the Chrysler Small Block pattern) Hmmm....
Greg | Confirmed!
Message from John Fleck:
"Since we make the transmissions, I can verify they are the same bolt pattern. (The same case bolts to the CRD (Diesel) as the 3.7, 4.7, and 5.7L. All of these are the same bell housing pattern as the 5.2 and 5.9L Magnums and LA engines. The CRD engine is made in Italy by a subsidiary but it has Chrysler pattern."
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10-29-2005, 06:50 AM
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#45 | | Noobie | What a long, complicated thread.
I hope I`ve read this properly.
I`m trying to mate a Toyota R154 gearbox to a chevy 350 engine.
The gearbox came from a Toyota Supra Turbo (1987-1992)
The chevy engine is a post 1987 with a 1-piece rear main crank seal.
If I`ve read this thread properly I need a bellhousing from a Jeep AX15 4.0 Six cyl (which I found on ebay cheap - I hope this is correct as I will find out in a week or 2 when it gets here!!)
If the bellhousing works out then I need to sort out the clutch.
I have been in contact with Advance Adaptors and they say they can`t supply anything suitable. They say they can only supply for a 4 wheel drive application - but I thought the clutch would be the same??
The other option I thought would be to use a complete Toyota clutch and re-drill/tap the chevy flywheel to accept it.
Has anybody any helpful advice regarding this?
Thanks in advance
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